Sunday, 24 January 2010

Genetics - Would you want to know?

Geriatric Mummy is in the very unfortunate circumstances of watching her beloved Father go rapidly downhill with early onset dementia and she has asked what other people would do in her situation.  I decided to do a post, rather than a comment, as it would be rather long, as this is a subject close to my heart.



I have a faulty gene, technically they call it a spelling mistake in the DNA and in mine and my family's case the issue is with the BRCA 1 gene, which for me due to my family history means that I had an 80% lifetime risk of breast cancer and a 60% lifetime risk of ovarian cancer.  It also means that I am more susceptible to a number of other cancers too.

Now to put this in to perspective, genetic breast cancer accounts for approximately 5% of the cases of breast cancer, so it is a relatively small amount and pretty unusually to get the positive result for the spelling mistake.

The reason I came to find out was down to my wonderful Aunt T, she was diagnosed with a very rare type of cancer, primary peritoneal cancer and during her treatment she was treated for a genetic spelling mistake, mainly due to my other Aunt dying from cancer and the history of cancer on my maternal side of the family.  We all concentrated on my Aunts recovery and through nothing of the results not coming back, so that when they did informing her of the genetic issues we were all floored.


Initially the NHS offered a genetic test to my Aunts remaining siblings, her daughters and my deceased Aunts children.  My mum chose to have the test, even though she is the oldest in the family.  She was diagnosed as carrying the spelling mistake too, which meant that the test was opened up to me and my brother.

MadDad and I received counselling from Macmillan even before we made the decision whether or not to have the test.  We were really lucky in the care we received and we were also both of the same opinion, that finding out if I carried the spelling mistake would enable us to take proactive actions against any cancers.


In all honesty I thought that I would be fine and to find out otherwise was a real punch in the solar plexus, but we decided that we would research all the options open to me and started meeting with consultants, cancer survivors, woman who had undergone mastectomies, nurses and anyone we could really.

I had a mammogram, an MRI, a colonoscopy, a gasgoscopy and an ultrasound before we had come to any conclusion about what we would do. Initially I decided to have my ovaries and fallopian tubes removed.  There were distinct advantages to having this operation prior to turning 35, both for the reduction in risk of ovarian cancer and also the fact that the changes in my hormones due to the operation would also reduce the breast cancer risk marginally.

I underwent this initially operation in July 2008 when Maxi was 3 and Mini was 2.  We both yearned for a larger family but decided on balance that it would be better to concentrate on the two we have rather than risk having anymore and subsequently developing ovarian cancer, especially as it is very hard to diagnose.

I was in hospital for one night, back driving the following day and swimming 4 days later.  It was a really easy recovery and I was very lucky indeed.


We were also discussing the possibility of breast cancer and also the diagnosis of this, which would hampered by the fact that I was a larger breasted lady (38GG), so after much consideration, deliberation and after taking as much advise as we could that I would have a bi-lateral prophylactic mastectomy with an immediate reconstruction.

I also decided that initially I would have a reconstruction with implants, as this meant the recovery should be quicker and less traumatic for us as a family as a whole.

Knowing that I have this spelling mistake, also leaves me with the knowledge that I may have passed this "bad blood" on to my two wonderful boys.  They will both be entitled to the genetic test at 18 should they wish and I will stand by whatever decision they make, but I also live in the hope that as they can now detect which gene the spelling mistake is in, that they make even be able to correct it by the time the boys are older.


After seeing what people with cancer go through, the chemo, the radiotherapy, the long term drugs to hopefully prevent the cancer returning, we are in no doubt that we made the correct choice for our family.

Yes what we have been through has been traumatic for the minimads, but the possibility of putting them through cancer and its treatment makes me feel physically sick.


In doing what I have, I have not wiped out my all my changes of developing cancer, but I have reduced the lifetime possibility drastically.  I understand that not everyone would have done what I did, but it was the right decision for me, I could not live year at a time just waiting for the cancer to show itself.  I was lucky in that I could take preventative measures, which is not always possible.

So Geriatric Mummy that is my blog post on it, although it hasnt answered your question about dementia. I feel for you I really do, to watch your father slip though your fingertips must be unbearable. No one can make this decision but you and your loved ones, but what ever decision you make, I will be here to support you and yours in any way I can.




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Bloody hell - what a brave process to go through. Great that you were able to have your 2 boys first. Lucky that they have a mother like you that will go through all that to increase likelihood of staying in their lives
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I don't want to tell you you're brave... but you are so brave, and what an incredible thing to do for your boys. Heart disease runs in our family (both sides) and while I have been told the risk reduces from generation to generation it is still a concern at the moment. Big hugs to you xxx
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Sew Scrumptious · 792 weeks ago

What a couple of years you have had. It must have been really hard especially with very young children. My mother in law died of ovarian cancer in 2008 2 weeks after Sam was born. She was only 60. She was tested to see if it was genetic as her sister had had breast cancer but luckily for her children it wasn't. I think you made the right decision with the action you took but what a horrible decision to have to make. I hope you are feeling ok now? x
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I've said it before but you were very brave to have all the ops and brave to tell about it - it may help others make up their minds about huge decisions.

As you know I asked for a hysterectomy after years of negative smear results and treatment for pre cancerous cell growth on the cervix.

I'd had mt two wonderful children by then and I know I made the right decision.
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What an open and heartfelt post, it's not often you come across such situations like you have, and I admire your bravery.
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As someone without any knowledge of his family's medical history (I was only asked the question again today) I've always found this sort of thing fascinating. Would I want to know if I had a similar genetic trait? Or a history of heart disease? Or cancer? I don't know. What I do know is you've done the right thing in finding out, and the brave thing in taking the action you did. Anything else is just waiting for fate, isn't it? Which sort of answers my own question too.
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Thanks for your post hun. Having known about your situation for some time I've thought about your situation and mine many times. If I were in your shoes I would undoubtedly have made the same decisions as hard as they may have been. The difficulty I have with my situation is that there is no cure or treatment and I can take no preventative action :(

I think it will be a long time before I'm brave enough to find out what awaits me...
What an amazingly brave lady you are and what a humbling entry to read. Keep looking forward. xxx
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I think I'd want to know, then at least I could do as you've done and try to prevent it. There is bowel cancer, high blood pressure and glaucoma in my family and my Mum has recently been diagnosed with glaucoma so that means they'll keep an extra close check on myself and my kids which I'm glad of. Hope you're feeling very well now.
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I am wishing you and your family all the best - what a brave thing to do . Thank you for writing about it. It mustn't have been easy.
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I too am astonished at the strength you must have had to go through this. A friend of mine is in much the same position as you were a couple of years ago - just had baby No 2, her mother and aunt died of ovarian cancer, she has the BRCA gene. She's having to make the decisions you made at the moment. I will be letting her know that she is not alone. Thank you.
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I think I would want to know, and would have then done the same things as you. It was an extremely brave but well informed decision, and thank goodness you had your two lovely children. A wonderful post which I'm sure will be an inspiration to many.
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What a decision you had to make. You are very lucky that you got the chance to find out. Thank you for sharing your story x
I can understand where you made this decision from, the need to be there for your family, to keep them and yourself from that. Although you shy from the word I think it was brave to face up to it like that, it would have been much easier to bury your head in the sand, to say 'yes but the chances are so small' to umm and ahh over it for so long until I came back to bite you in the butt.

so that was brave, facing it, looking at it straight on and realising what you had to do. even though it must have scared you.
How fortunate that you discovered this, though maybe that is an odd thing to say. And I assume everything was covered by the NHS including the reconstructive mastectomy? What a wonderful resource the NHS is. That scienctific discovery from tiny contributions of many many people ultimately lead to you and others being able to protect yourself in this way is what keeps scientists like me going. And as you say, in the future we may be able to do even more. Stay well and thanks for sharing your story so eloquently.
My son was diagnosed with a rare and devastating kidney disease last year and it was subsequently found to be genetic. We have four sons and now face the worry about whether we have the other three (and us) tested. Our kidney doctor says not to bother because there is nothing they can do until any of us show symptoms and even then we would be one of the lucky ones to respond to medication at that point. I am torn between wanting to know and having the burden of uncertainty lifted, either to be replaced with the freedom of knowing they were clear or replacing it with the burden of knowing they too might have the genetic defect. Having experienced all this, I can honestly say that I would have done exactly as you have done, all the time knowing how hard that must have been xx

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